Today’s review is of the Partagás Ramón y Ramón cigar. According to Partagas, this stogie features rare tobaccos and vintage seeds that harken back to a time when Ramon Cifuentes oversaw production. It has a nice looking wrapper leaf with a raisin smell to it. Once lit up, it became evident that the construction would be a problem with these. Both cigars had voids and burns issues. The flavor is complex, dominated by sweet, woody notes with some spice. Overall, it’s hard to recommend one that’s this difficult to smoke. Looking past the extreme construction issues, the flavors were very good and the quality of the tobacco is clearly evident. If you get one with good construction, it will be worth the purchase.
Flavor and Taste: 15/20
Price Point: 7/10
Would I buy a Box: 1/5
Flavor and Taste: 16/20
Price Point: 8/10
Would I buy a Box: 3/5
IamDarren: I pulled a Partagas with a gold label out
Terry1: I still have that one. Lets try it!
IamDarren: ok, great. Im going to head out to the shed
Terry1: Be back in a minute too.
IamDarren: Just pulled mine out of the cello. Decent construction. Minimal veins. It has a nice raisin and hint of chocolate coming off the wrapper.
Terry1: Same here. I like the gold band. Looks classy. Hopefully the smoking experience matches it. Cigar feels hard but I’m getting a good draw out of it. Heavy raisin note on the cold draw. Ready to light up.
IamDarren: Pretty decent draw on my stick. Lighting up now
IamDarren: Full bodied at the start of mine. Very rich, lots of charred oak and spice. A hint of sweetness in there somewhere.
IamDarren: already having some construction issues though. Cigar didn’t light well so i did a relight. Noticed after a few puffs that the burn is tunneling very bad. Guess i will baby it and see what happens.
Terry1: Nice start. It is full bodied. I’m having trouble identifying the flavors. There is a woody note, some sweetness and a hint of spice.
Terry1: My sample is burning well so far. I hope it stays that way.
IamDarren: Weirdest thing happened. It was tunneling and now it has burned out the side of the cigar about 1/3 inch from the foot and created a canoe… First time for everything i guess.
Terry1: Damn that is a problem. Would not have expected something like that happening on a Partagas.
IamDarren: finally i think i have it under control. Did a major burn correction. Producing lots of smoke now and it has developed more of a mellower, buttery character. Really coating the palate. Nice flavor.
IamDarren: great smoke production as well
Terry1: Buttery is a good describer. There is a dominant oak note with a hint of spice and sweetness that lifts the cigar from being one dimensional. I know it’s doesn’t sound like much but I am enjoying the flavor. Draw is tightening up a little.
IamDarren: had trouble finding this blend. I guess its called the Ramon y Ramon. Has a 6th priming Cameroon wrapper.
IamDarren: already nearing the halfway mark on mine because of the burn issues. I believe now that whoever rolled mine just did a poor job. Looks like they took a pile of tobacco and folded it over one time to make a U shape. Its canoeing badly on the loosely packed side and the other side is burning slow.
Terry1: OMG! I’m only an inch in. That sucks!
IamDarren: Its a real shame because when i get it squared up i get lots of great flavor. Sweet and creamy with some oak and spice notes. Flavor seems very balanced.
Terry1: Yeah those are the flavors I’m getting. I’m liking the cigar so far but I would like a little more sweetness to balance out the oak note.
IamDarren: This was released this year. Very few reviews and i can’t even find a price.
IamDarren: it seems like the further i get into mine the sweeter it is getting, its a nice slow transition
IamDarren: Looks like retail is about $7.50
IamDarren: oak is changing over to more of a cedar note as i cross the halfway mark. Becoming slightly more acidic but the sweetness is spot on now. Solid medium body.
Terry1: I’m looking for that sweetness. I’m getting a tannic note on the finish that would be balanced out with the sweetness. I’m done with the first third. Burn is getting lopsided. I may have the same issue you had on a smaller scale. I can see a small hole that has developed on the side burning faster.
Terry1: My cigar stopped smoking. I have to draw several times to get a minimal amount of smoke out of it. Not sure what is going on. I’m considering knocking off the ash and relighting.
Terry1: Did several purges and got the cigar smoking again. And I have another hole on the side of the wrapper. What the hell? Did they have their beginner rollers rolling these?
IamDarren: darn it, i was hoping mine would be the only one. I will way that mine has been improving ever since the first third.
Terry1: The middle third has been a chore to smoke for me. Last third better be good.
IamDarren: Maybe they decided they should hurry up production to get them sold before the impending doom of the USDA laws hit. Just a theory…
Terry1: You might be right.
IamDarren: bitterness is slowly creeping up in the last third. Still a decent amount of sweetness but its on the verge of overtaking the other flavors.
Terry1: Into the final third and finally I’m getting some of the sweetness you mentioned.
IamDarren: less than an inch left on mine. I set it down for a rest and the bitterness is pretty much gone. Very sweet and creamy. I think mine will end well.
Terry1: I’ve got another huge void in mine. It’s like you said the roller bunched the leaves and made a folded them over into a u. I had to do a major burn correction on the side not burning anymore.
Terry1: Screwed up my sentence. I’m thinking fast and typing slow.
IamDarren: too bad, i think this is a well blended cigar. I liked the flavors when it was burning properly.
IamDarren: mine is finished, last 2/3 were enjoyable
Terry1: I can rate now. Agree the flavors, when they were there, were enjoyable but the construction caused all kinds of problems.
IamDarren: Too bad. Good tobacco pretty much wasted because of poor construction.
IamDarren: After finding that it was a Cameroon I was hoping we could find a good go-too but this one is a “try at your own risk” blend.
Terry1: The band proved to be better than the cigar. I’m disappointed. I would only recommend purchasing singles until the cigar proves itself. The construction was really a problem to the overall enjoyment.