This week’s group review is the Jameson Black in robusto size. We were all excited to try this one. It smells great, the wrapper looks nice, and the cold draw was perfect. It provided a lot of flavor right off the bat. Then, after the first 15 puffs, it fell mostly flat in flavor. My stick developed an acidity that was less than pleasant, the other two did not. Two of the three sample sticks had poor construction and required several burn corrections. Some Flavor developed in the final third, but it was too little too late for this cigar. We don’t really know where this cigar went wrong. My theory is that it may benefit from a punch instead of a cut, maybe the restricted air would help it build flavor? We cannot recommend that you try this cigar, especially at the price that was paid for them. Hopefully some of Jameson’s other cigars will have more to offer. Below you will find our ratings and the full review.
StraightUpCigars – Matt:
Flavor and Taste: 11/20
Price Point: 5/10
Would I buy a Box: 1/5
Flavor and Taste: 13/20
Price Point: 6/10
Would I buy a Box: 2/5
Flavor and Taste: 14/20
Price Point: 6/10
Would I buy a Box: 2/5
Terry1: I’m here and excited to try the Jameson Black.
IamDarren: Hey Terry, i’m just grabbing all my stuff and heading out doors.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Very rich tobacco and chocolate smell coming from this thing! The wrapper is dark and very oily. Looks and smells good!
Terry1: Good looking cigar. Agree with the oily wrapper. I get a bit of chocolate on the cold draw. Draw is perfect for me. I can’t wait. I’m lighting up!
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Me too. I cut the head and the draw is perfect. Going to light up.
IamDarren: ok just got mine clipped, going to light up.
IamDarren: my draw is a bit tight but not too bad
IamDarren: mine lit easily, producing a decent amount of smoke.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Hard to pin down exact flavor on this one. Robust and earthy with a spicy finish. Leaves a lot of sour spice on the lips with each draw.
Terry1: Smoke is creamy and plentiful. Getting that chocolate from the cold draw. Some sourness on the finish.
IamDarren: agreed, very creamy and mellow up front but you quickly notice the spice especially when you retrohale.
IamDarren: a touch of cedar with some milk chocolate in the middle, then fading out with spice.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: My burn is off kilter as it is tunneling on one side. Hopefully the construction improves.
IamDarren: burn is good on mine with a nice tight white ash. Flavors are mellowing a little with some more sweetness.
Terry1: I’m getting a good amount of smoke but the flavors seem muted. A little spice, a little sweetness, then it quickly fades. It’s okay for now but we’ve had several cigars that started strong then faded by the end. If this one does that there won’t be any flavor by the end.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Well said Terry. It is the strangest thing, there is actually very little flavor to the smoke. It tastes like… smoke, at this point. The tasty finish is all but gone right now./
IamDarren: going into the second third, just dropped off the ash. Flavor on mine is still mellow but the chocolate is gone now and it is getting very earthy. The finish is picking up an herbal quality.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Maybe a punch instead of a cut would help the flavors build better on this thing? My draw is a bit loose now. I let it rest for a few minutes and the tasty finish of sour and spice is back, but there does not seem to be any detectable flavor up front.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I am in the second third now. Not liking what I am tasting. There is a serious acidity to it, it tends to linger. In fact, it is most notable when I set the cigar down for a couple of minutes.
Terry1: I’m beginning the second third. Getting a little more spice in the retrohale. Some sweetness. I get a hint of something but I can’t figure out what it is. Draw and burn is still going well.
IamDarren: Sweetness seems to be coming back again only in the form of caramel. I agree there is something else near the finish that i like but can’t pick out. It mixes with the spice so its hard to pick out.
IamDarren: i would still only call this barely medium bodied. Defenitely not what i expected from this dark maduro.
Terry1: Agree. Doesn’t taste like it looks!
IamDarren: I’m a little worried about the Reds i got in my order. They might have even less body.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Or smells, I was expecting sweet chocolate flavor from mine. Strangely, I am getting the exact opposite. I’m in the basement and the ‘gar cam from the same box I keep our other reviewers in, so environment is not a factor.
Terry1: Is the black the stronger of the two?
IamDarren: the first sentence in the description: One of our original releases, the Red Label is our mildest offering
Terry1: The Red may taste like air.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: That would be an improvement over the acidity
IamDarren: lol, I have to say that this cigar is still enjoyable in my opinion. The caramel is still building and the spice on the end is tasty. I just wish there was more of it.
IamDarren: Infact, going into the last third i am starting to get a little pepper now. Maybe this one will end with a bang….. i hope.
Terry1: Getting into the final third. Bands came off with ease. Burn and draw still fine. No acidity in my sample. The sweetness and spice is building a little. I can actually taste something now.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I wish we could trade samples so I could taste what you are an you taste what
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I am.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I must have gotten the bad apple this time around.
Terry1: Yeah it’s getting better. I’m getting more of the spice and pepper. I just wish the whole cigar was like this. Kind of like watching a boring chick flick then having an exploding car chase at the end. Not sure if the first two thirds was worth the final third.
IamDarren: i would still prefer it over the Tat. I like the flavors to build to the finale.
Terry1: Funny how many times one of us gets a stick that doesn’t perform like the other two.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: Yeah, it is both good and bad that it is not hand made cigars are not an exact science
IamDarren: I sometimes wonder how well the sort the tobacco before rolling. While you might get the same kind of tobacco and the same priming. Cigars might have tobacco from two different growing areas.
IamDarren: i’m really liking mine now. very rich, dense smoke. Some coffee up front now with a lot of spice and a touch of pepper on the finsh.
Terry1: I’m liking it now as well. I get the coffee and every few puffs I get a roasted nut flavor. Mixes well with the spice and pepper. Strength has suddenly built up on mine. I can feel it more as I approach the end.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I am finally getting some earth and coffee flavor with a little spice now! I am in the final third. Unfortunately the acidity in my sample does drown those flavors out though when I am inbetween puffs.
Terry1: Geez, so how do we rate this one. The first and second half are very different.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: My burn has improved to near perfect. The ash drops fast on this one, so I have 4 small ash droppings in the tray. One thing it does very well: produce smoke. The loose draw doesn’t leave me puffing very hard each time.
IamDarren: my first two ashes were over an inch, but the 3rd was only 1/2 inch… not too bad on mine.
IamDarren: Some people prefer more complexity in a cigar. I tend to sway back and forth. Some cigars I like because they always deliver great flavor but aren’t complex. Others I like because they take me on a journey.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: That’s deep. You must have loved the OSA SOL then!
IamDarren: lol, well it depends on the journey.
IamDarren: approaching the nub and still liking it a lot. Coffee flavor is dominating now with a hint of spice. Pepper has actually faded a little.
StraightUpCigars – Matt: The final third on mine isn’t too bad. Toasty flavor w/ coffee and some spice on the finish. The first 10 puffs and final third are decent, everything inbetween was a total wash for me.
Terry1: I’m at the nub and I agree, the coffee dominates. Good ending. Glad the cigar produced some flavors at the end.
IamDarren: yeah, overall it was good….just not great.
Terry1: For the price and how it looked I really expected more.
IamDarren: If I had smoked it a year ago I would have probably loved it. AJ had ruined me for less fantastic cigars…
StraightUpCigars – Matt: I hate to do it to a small company like Jameson, but my sample was sub-par and the rating will reflect that. Sometimes it hurts to be honest.
Terry1: Well not a hit this time but Jameson does make some great cigars…just not this one it appears.